The Rumor Mill...
I'm hearing rumors around town and although I hate spreading gossip, I want to know if there is any truth to them whatsoever. I keep hearing that 1st Baptist Concord is trying to purchase all of the land currently occupied by Ingles and the former Regal Cinema in order to build a High School complex.
If this is true, this most likely would be the worst decision ever! If I were a person planning on building any school, I wouldn't build it on a known busy street! You put your children at risk for harm and danger. I personally don't like having schools or churches on Kingston Pike because it is and should be where retail development happens. Churches and belong in the middle of neighborhoods because they are to be in usually low traffic areas, have limited growth (which in the case of a church should have the members split off and grow another church in another neighborhood), usually reduce crime and increase the property values of the homes around them. Placing such a facility on Kingston Pike however, gets you the problems we see every Sunday (you all know what they are, don't you?), and if you put a school in the same area, you'll add those same problems every single day!
I am not a member of the FBC and know nobody in that church's leadership, so if you are, please feel free to comment on this.
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If this is true, this most likely would be the worst decision ever! If I were a person planning on building any school, I wouldn't build it on a known busy street! You put your children at risk for harm and danger. I personally don't like having schools or churches on Kingston Pike because it is and should be where retail development happens. Churches and belong in the middle of neighborhoods because they are to be in usually low traffic areas, have limited growth (which in the case of a church should have the members split off and grow another church in another neighborhood), usually reduce crime and increase the property values of the homes around them. Placing such a facility on Kingston Pike however, gets you the problems we see every Sunday (you all know what they are, don't you?), and if you put a school in the same area, you'll add those same problems every single day!
I am not a member of the FBC and know nobody in that church's leadership, so if you are, please feel free to comment on this.
Getting off the poverbial soapbox...
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Anonymous comments are allowed, just keep them clean, o.k.
posted by Mike at 8:33 AM
16 Comments:
It is preferred to put schools on main arterial roads like Kingston Pike. That is the position is Knox County Schools.
I would prefer a second run movie theater but a school is better than having it lay fallow. We have a serious problem with businesses leaving Farragut. Of course if more than 16 % of the registered voters had voted we could be making some progress towards solving the problem.
The Farragut Chamber of Commerce is a joke. Mayor Ford needs to step up and recruit new businesses to replace the ones we have lost.
Have you seen the Bi Lo shopping center? It is becoming a ghost town. Bi Lo was recently sold and may close this store. If it does close we will need to find another store quickly. Any shopping center that has a vacancy for more than nine months can be labeled as undesirable.
Bill
If FBC does what you suggest move and build the church in another community - that leaves Farragut with a deserted campus - for a blog that appears upset with the flight out of farragut by commercial establishments - you now appear to be a hypocrite.
Where was your outrage at the two new large church construction at Dixie Lee Junction on Kingston Pike? It is better to have church traffic on Kingston Pike instead of say a small underdeveloped road.
Why are you not complaining about the traffic that the Knoxville Open golf tournament creates on Smith Road, Grisgby Chapel and Campbell Station.
If you are upset about the traffic on sunday morning around FBC or any other church in Farragut, I have two suggestions 1) plan your travel around these congested areas around 12:00 noon on Sunday or 2) come join us for a time of worship and you will become a calmer person, not upset at having to stop on kingston pike for 60 seconds for traffic leaving a church. The concept is that you share the road, (maybe you need to enroll in a student driver course)not that you have a God given right to run 70 miles an hour down Kingston Pike without stopping to allow others to depart and travel safely.
Do you complain about the traffic and being stopped for a few minutes when you attend a UT football game?
OK, OK, point's well taken! Like I've said before opinions are just that, opinions. That being said, I'm not going to support the flight of any establishment from a community (commercial, religious, etc.). Period!
Now I can understand the LARGE churches being on KP, however, why must churches be so large to begin with? Personal experience has shown me that you lose that sense of community and fellowship once a congregation is over 500 (even more @ 5000). But I also understand that there are many that like it that way and I won't begrudge them that opportunity. So, I guess in that case KP is probably your best solution in Farragut.
I do attend a small church in Lenoir City, btw, that's on a secondary road in the middle of a neighborhood. I like it that way, o.k. Its a personal preference kind of thing.
As for the golf tourney and UT football--since I don't actively participate in either of those events, and actually avoid them most of the time by heading to other venues (like the Smokies), is why I couldn't comment on that.
Lastly, as for the traffic thing, I've already commented that I've become an official "Farragut Pace Car" and don't speed within our fair county! I don't get mad anymore, I just plan ahead!
If FBC does what you suggest move and build the church in another community - that leaves Farragut with a deserted campus - for a blog that appears upset with the flight out of farragut by commercial establishments - you now appear to be a hypocrite.
Play fair. That is a paper tiger and you know it. I suggest that you talk with members of the church and ask them not to speed when they leave the Sunday Service. Your use of the word hypocrite is a poor choice. How is it after a church service that members of your church break the traffic laws leaving church? Cast not a stone…
The speeding on Kingston Pike is occuring while the members of FBC or any other church is attempting to enter the pike. It is neccesary to enter the flow. Only about two years ago the FBC family lost an elderly member one sunday morning as they were turning left on to Bellaire to attend church service and was plowed over by a speeding vehicle going east, I am sure the speeding offender was not speeding to a church service probably to K-Mart (before Turkey Creek was developed)for a blue light special or Kroger for a six pack.
The speeding on Kingston Pike is occuring while the members of FBC or any other church is attempting to enter the pike. It is neccesary to enter the flow.
There is a difference between merging and speeding. I have friends that go to church there and it is a wonderful church. But some of your members do speed especially going west. I'm talking over 60 and 65. It reflects on everyone.
Knox County ranks 8th nationally in suburban sprawl and Farragut is its poster child. While I don't have the answer, it is apparent that we are the cause of our own problems.
Why should a business locate in Farragut? What benefit does it offer compared to say...Turkey Creek?
I thought Turkey Creek was the poster boy for sprawl. Where is the sprawl in Farragut?
Why do you attach a gender to urban sprawl and the Turkey Creek development.
I believe that urbam sprawl is the development at John Sevier Highway and Chapman Hwy. That is the first of urban sprawl waiting for the south knox blvd to connect to john sevier and then it will be unlike anything you have ever seen.
There are land speculators buying up all that south knox land for development for the tourist going to the smokies.
Obvious 101: Without Farragut, Turkey Creek would not have happened. Duh.
not true. Farragut was irrelevant to Turkey Creek....the creation of turkey creek was the spawn of little hitler...the one that is currently in poland...that is why all the commercial development is in the city of knox due to his land grab called annexation...Farragut had nothing to do with it..the customers to Turkey Creek are coming from all over the region..not from farragut..so duh yourself elsewhere...so, go live with your leader..little hitler ashe in poland..
right on farragut republican..the people that complain about sprawl..typically live in downtown or south knoxville..and those of us that live in farragut or around farragut live here because of the successful schools..the schools in downtown and south knoxville suck. I live here because I love the conveince of everything, the schools and my church..i wouldn't live in the alternative lifestyle culture of downtown or south knoxville.
Have you seen the Bi Lo shopping center? It is becoming a ghost town. Bi Lo was recently sold and may close this store.
Bi-lo has been sold and will change its name. They will be staying.
don't count on Bi-Lo staying...the company that bought them C&S out of Vermont bought Fleming Foods in Nashville and Memphis (part of the K-Mart bankruptcy C&S said we bought it enter the southern market. then sold them to awg out of the mid-west. when c&s bought Bi-Lo they said the same thing we bought them to enter the south...they won't they will re-sell to build cash...they buy cheap and sell to make a quick profit.
don't count on Bi-Lo staying...the company that bought them C&S out of Vermont bought Fleming Foods in Nashville and Memphis (part of the K-Mart bankruptcy C&S said we bought it enter the southern market.
Why is the Farragut Chamber of Commerce so weak and where is Mike Ragsdale on this? I thought he was the business finder.
Farragut Chamber is so week, because of Bettye Sisco and the chamber is not inclusive of everybody..I had to contact them about joining..they sent me the info and never followed up...so I said screw it..I don't hav eto have networking opportunities..I create my own networking..Ragsdale is doing a good job..I think, with what he has to deal with.
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